Biden: ‘It’s Nice To Be Back In Coal Country’
By Earl Neikirk/Bristol Herald Courier
Democratic vice presidential nominee Joe Biden speaks to the crowd at the United Mine Workers’ annual fish fry in Castlewood, Va., Saturday.
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By Debra McCown
Reporter / Bristol Herald Courier
Published: September 21, 2008
CASTLEWOOD, Va. – In his first visit to Southwest Virginia, Democratic vice presidential nominee Joe Biden, speaking at the United Mine Workers’ annual fish fry here on Saturday, was quick to tout his ties to coal.
“I hope you won’t hold it against me, but I am a hard-coal miner, anthracite coal, Scranton, Pa.,” Biden said. “It’s nice to be back in coal country. … It’s a different accent [in Southwest Virginia] … but it’s the same deal. We were taught that our faith and our family was the only really important thing, and our faith and our family informed everything we did.”
Biden, a U.S. senator from Delaware, told the story of his great-grandfather, a mining engineer who was elected to the state Senate in 1904 and was rumored to be a Molly Maguire, a member of a secret organization tied to union activism and crime in the Pennsylvania coalfields in the 19th century.
“He went out of his way to prove that he wasn’t, and we were all praying that he was,” he said.
Other speakers, including Virginia Gov. Tim Kaine, also stumped here for Biden, and praised him while trying to hammer home the point that this marks the third visit to the region by a member of the Democratic presidential ticket in the 2008 election season. Biden’s running mate, presidential candidate Barack Obama, visited Southwest Virginia in June and earlier this month.
U.S. Rep. Rick Boucher, D-9th, sought to get one message across about Obama: “Senator Obama’s a friend of coal.”
Biden covered a lot of topics in his speech, but focused on drawing a contrast between the Republican and Democratic nominees; he painted Obama’s Republican challenger, John McCain, as out of touch and concerned primarily with the well-being of the rich.
“I’m kind of sick and tired of Republicans talking to me about how much they love the military,” Biden said. “My dad used to say, don’t tell me what you value. Show me your budget, and I’ll tell you what you value.”
He said Democrats were responsible for getting better armored vehicles to protect U.S. troops serving in Iraq, and are seeking an expanded GI Bill to include benefits for National Guard troops who serve in foreign wars.
He blamed Republican banking policies for the recent meltdown on Wall Street – and said McCain policies would bring similar disaster to the health-care system, Social Security and the American middle class.
He promised Democrats would bring middle-class tax cuts, investment in clean-coal and liquid-coal technologies and laws that would prevent corporate executives from keeping millions of dollars when a bankruptcy wipes out employee pensions.
“Barack Obama and I are going to change the law so if any company decides it wants to go bankrupt, it’s OK … but they have to put every nickel they have into that bankruptcy, they lose everything,” Biden said.
“I promise you what will happen. As we Christians say, they will have an epiphany. They will say maybe bankruptcy is not such a good idea when they have to lose everything they have.”
He also said American citizens’ gun rights would be safe under an Obama administration.
He told the hundreds of union members gathered for the speech that the American middle class exists because of the labor movement – and that the Bush administration, which he tied to McCain, has waged a third war in addition to those in Afghanistan and Iraq: a war on labor.
“You’re the only thing that stands … between us and the barbarians at the gate, man,” he said.
Kaine, who spoke both in Castlewood and at an earlier town hall-style meeting in Abingdon, Va., said Southwest Virginia will make the difference in this year’s presidential race.
“If we win the electoral votes of Virginia, that’s enough, I think, to make Barack president,” Kaine said in Abingdon. “If we get that 13, I don’t think there’s any other path for McCain to get to 270.”
He said energy and health care are the two key issues of the day that will be decided, along with the need to look at small businesses to gauge the economy’s health, the need for government regulation of industry and the need for investment in people and infrastructure.
Also stumping for Obama and Biden at the fish fry, Kaine sought to dispel comparisons between the Democratic candidates and celebrities, as well as accusations that they are elitists.
“These are regular, basic, decent folks,” Kaine said. “They have clawed their way up from the bottom because of their faith in the American dream … and the opportunity this country provides them.”
Neither McCain nor his running mate, Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin, has been to Southwest Virginia on a campaign stop. But they’re coming, said Patty Denton, chairwoman of the Washington County Republican Party.
“I don’t know exactly when yet, but they will, they certainly will,” Denton said on Saturday.
Denton said none of the county’s Republican officials heard Biden’s speech on Saturday. They were all in Abingdon, celebrating the opening of their new party headquarters – and McCain’s Southwest Virginia campaign headquarters – at Exit 19 of Interstate 81.
She said energy is growing in support of McCain as well – and the office was busy all day with a steady stream of people looking to volunteer and support McCain.
“It’s been a wonderful response … people just coming out of the woodwork wanting to help us,” Denton said. “[We’ve] never had that before.”
Calls to the Obama-Biden campaign were referred to a regional spokesman. Calls to the Republican National Committee were not returned, nor were additional calls to the campaign seeking comment Saturday evening.
Asked whether Obama is truly a friend of coal, Eastern Coal Council Executive Director Barbara Altizer said Obama did support a clean-coal research facility.
“I think he’s maybe not as good a friend as we’d like to have, but I think all of the candidates will have to support clean-coal technology,” Altizer said. “I keep hoping whoever gets the election, they’ll have the opportunity to learn about coal and they’ll be a good friend.”
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Posted by ( carl ) on September 23, 2008 at 10:58 pm
We know what Biden said at the fish fry…
Biden: ‘No coal plants here in America’
By Ben Smith, Politico
Some great rope line video from Joe Biden’s recent Ohio swing, where he was asked by an anti-pollution campaigner about clean coal—a controversial approach in Democratic circles for which Obama has voiced support, particularly during the Kentucky primary.
Biden’s apparent answer: He supports clean coal for China, but not for the United States.
“No coal plants here in America,“ he said. “Build them, if they’re going to build them, over there. Make them clean.“
“We’re not supporting clean coal,“ he said of himself and Obama.“
http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/0908/Biden_No_coal_plants_here_in_America.html?showall
We are still waiting J Todd for that hard hitting unbiased reporting you boast about.
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Posted by ( rawbleedorange ) on September 22, 2008 at 7:03 pm
come to your own conclusion about how obama feels about guns.his voting record.
Ok for states & cities to determine local gun laws. (Apr 2008)
FactCheck: Yes, Obama endorsed Illinois handgun ban. (Apr 2008)
Respect 2nd Amendment, but local gun bans ok. (Feb 2008)
Provide some common-sense enforcement on gun licensing. (Jan 2008)
2000: cosponsored bill to limit purchases to 1 gun per month. (Oct 2007)
Concealed carry OK for retired police officers. (Aug 2007)
Stop unscrupulous gun dealers dumping guns in cities. (Jul 2007)
Keep guns out of inner cities—but also problem of morality. (Oct 2006)
Bush erred in failing to renew assault weapons ban. (Oct 2004)
Ban semi-automatics, and more possession restrictions. (Jul 1998)
Voted NO on prohibiting lawsuits against gun manufacturers. (Jul 2005)
*(issues2000.org)*
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Posted by ( rawbleedorange ) on September 22, 2008 at 6:35 pm
The Molly Maguires were members of a secret Irish organization. Many historians believe the “Mollies” were present in the anthracite coal fields of Pennsylvania in the United States from approximately the time of the American Civil War until a series of sensational arrests and trials in the years 1876−1878(wikipedia)
Biden knows nothing of coal. the family moved to Delaware when he was 10, his father was a car salesman, and mother was a homemaker.
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Posted by ( rawbleedorange ) on September 22, 2008 at 6:28 pm
tmullins—you must have misspoke!
tmullins wrote—-Greed seems to be the American way, Lie, Cheat, Fraud, Mislead, Steal.——- looks to me like you have summed up the climte change, global warming,global climate change hysteria. how many more times is the name gonna change? it’s still B.S. no matter what you call it.
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Posted by ( tmullins ) on September 22, 2008 at 1:48 pm
To clarify what I wrote earlier:
China is putting at least two coal fired power plants on line every week. Within three to ten days the ‘smoke’ AKA C02 will reach the United States. When I look at where we live, it’s more than just SWVA, it’s our planet. What we are doing here is helping kill the camels in the Sahara Desert and the Polar Bears in the Arctic. We are killing our land, air and water, we are killing generations yet to come. The Big Sandy River Watershed is one of the top ten polluted rivers in the United States. Greed seems to be the American way, Lie, Cheat, Fraud, Mislead, Steal. Yet we want to talk about lipstick !!!!!!!!
Here’s a link explaining a little bit about China’s part in Global Warming.
www.motherjones.com/news/feature/2008/01/the=last-empire-5.html
www.wisecountyissues.com
tmullins
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Posted by ( rawbleedorange ) on September 22, 2008 at 11:08 am
tmullins—- i know you are not talking about the Va.City plant. Do you really believe that it will be old and outdated. I hope you are not speaking for others opposed to the plant.
I find it hard to believe that smoke from a plant in China reaches Southwest Va. in 3-10 days. That’s a lil far fetched to me.
As far as Biden and his visit,,He blamed Republican banking policies for the recent meltdown on Wall Street,,,,here is the truth on the financial meltdown.
1. Almost all of the financial problems we see today are based on bad mortgage lending. That would be lending money to people to buy homes who didn’t qualify for a loan.
2. The Democrats, under Clinton, strengthened a government-created monster called the “Community Reinvestment Act.“ This law was then used by “activists” and “community organizers” (like Obama?) to coerce lending institutions to make these bad loans ... millions of them.
3. Now we see what happens when political “wisdom” supplants good loan underwriting. When private financial institutions are virtually forced to make loans to people with a bad credit and job history .. this is what you get. Enjoy it.
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Posted by ( pa and grandad ) on September 22, 2008 at 8:37 am
George Bush has been in office for 7 1/2 years. The first six the economy was fine.
A little over one year ago:
1) Consumer confidence stood at a 2 1/2 year high;
2) Regular gasoline sold for $2.19 a gallon;
3) the unemployment rate was 4.5%.
4) the DOW JONES hit a record high—14,000 +
5) American’s were buying new cars,taking cruises, vacations overseas, living large!...
But American’s wanted ‘CHANGE’! So, in 2006 they voted in a Democratic Congress and yes—we got ‘CHANGE’ all right. In the PAST YEAR:
1) Consumer confidence has plummeted ;
2) Gasoline is now over $4 a gallon & climbing!;
3) Unemployment is up to 5.5% (a 10% increase);
4) Americans have seen their home equity drop by $12 TRILLION
DOLLARS and prices still dropping;
5) 1% of American homes are in foreclosure.
6) as I write, THE DOW is probing another low~~
$2.5 TRILLION DOLLARS HAS EVAPORATED FROM THEIR STOCKS, BONDS & MUTUAL FUNDS INVESTMENT
PORTFOLIOS!
YES, IN 2006 AMERICA VOTED FOR CHANGE…AND WE SURE GOT IT! ...
REMEMBER THE PRESIDENT HAS NO CONTROL OVER ANY OF THESE ISSUES, ONLY CONGRESS.
AND WHAT HAS CONGRESS DONE IN THE LAST TWO YEARS, ABSOLUTELY NOTHING.
NOW THE DEMOCRATIC CANDIDATE FOR PRESIDENT CLAIMS HE IS GOING TO REALLY GIVE US CHANGE ALONG WITH A DEMOCRATIC CONGRESS!!!!
JUST HOW MUCH MORE ‘CHANGE’ DO YOU THINK YOU CAN STAND?
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Posted by ( tmullins ) on September 21, 2008 at 2:13 pm
“ don’t tell me what you value, show me your budget, and I will tell you what you value.“ Joe Biden, Castlewood, Virginia ( 9/20/08 )
Senator Biden, please next time you are down here in SWVA fly over these mountains full of coal being decapitated for the love of money, come to Appalachia and see the prosperity of coal and how clean it really is for the land, air and watersheds. Come see Pound and it’s abandoned strip mines and the polluted water. These main streets look like a third world country, the high schools in Pound and Appalachia are dinosaurs not even having sufficient power to plug into technology for these kids. Our power is going to China to burn their coal fired power plants, to fire their economy and factories so we can buy a cheap toxic toy for our kids, then within three to ten days be polluted with C02 that ‘clean coal’ shipped to China is burning. We are not loosing our homes due to a hurricane or a financial melt down, but are loosing 350 Million Year Old Appalachian Mountains to greed. Dominion has been given money and permits to build an old out dated power plant, 1.8 Billion and is already asking for another 161 Million !! That’s outrageous !!!
I wonder how far that 161 Million here in Wise County would go to replace half century year old Pound High School and Appalachia High School.
www.wisecountyissues.com
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Posted by ( Russ ) on September 21, 2008 at 1:35 pm
It would be interesting if someone would research the Molly Maguire story. Biden’s been caught up in some whoppers before, and it wouldn’t surprise me to find out this was one of those times.
Biden’s a northeastern, elitist, liberal, socialist who wouldn’t give the overwhelming majority of the people, he was talking to, the time of day. He’s trolling for votes. He, as has McCain, has been in Washington for more than thirty years. What’s he ever done besides lap at the public trough???
The real Biden is reflected in his income tax returns. $3692.00 in charitable contributions, from 2.5 million dollars in income. That says it all.
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Posted by ( carl ) on September 21, 2008 at 8:10 am
Mr Biden is a liar.
“I hope you won’t hold it against me, but I am a hard-coal miner, anthracite coal, Scranton, Pa.,”
He was never a coal miner and his “engineer” grandfather was never a miner. One would think a good reporter would question his statement.
Next lie - “I guarantee you Barack Obama ain’t taking my shotguns, so don’t buy that malarkey,“ “Don’t buy that malarkey. They’re going to start peddling that to you.“
Obama and Biden both receive “F” ratings from the NRA. In fact Mr Obama supports a ban on the manufacture, sale and possession of handguns and a complete ban on “assault weapons”.
Where is the “hard hitting reporting” from J Todd Foster on this?
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